tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15322620.post8331408530727009024..comments2024-01-11T18:39:50.665+00:00Comments on Painting With Shadows: Why have I given up coffee?Kim Ayreshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02656677501116622953noreply@blogger.comBlogger25125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15322620.post-43341077302824111902010-07-07T18:16:21.978+01:002010-07-07T18:16:21.978+01:00Litzi - see my response to Pat just before your co...Litzi - see my response to Pat just before your comment to get an idea of what I do actually eat :)<br /><br />Roschelle - unfortunately I don't pray, but we live in hope :)<br /><br />Allen - halfway through week 3...<br /><br />Alan - Eryl is wise :)<br /><br />Jayne - The "I Told You So, You Lying Rotten Bastard" post probably requires more energy than I have. When you have little reserves, it's amazing how much righteous indignation drains them away<br /><br />Brahm - it's those who have to live with me I feel most sorry for...<br /><br />Z - I have a healthy degree of scepticism about all these things, but am getting incresingly desperate. I woould settle for a damn good placebo right now - I hear they can be very effective...<br /><br />Pilgrim chick - unfortunately I don't fall asleep that much - I just desperately, desperately want to...<br /><br />Helen - I've done Chromium and pro-biotics. Other things will be tried as and when<br /><br />Emma - glad you managed to find out what it was you needed to avoid. So can you eat fruit and dried fruit, or do they count as sugar?Kim Ayreshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02656677501116622953noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15322620.post-31637059002992511222010-07-06T11:53:42.951+01:002010-07-06T11:53:42.951+01:00Kim, I can really relate to what you are saying. ...Kim, I can really relate to what you are saying. I went through the exact same regime, and after months of fannying around and dreaming about sausage sandwiches, I narrowed it down to just a small number of things to avoid. The artificial sweeteners in soft drinks, sugar, alcohol, mushrooms and anything with caffeine in were the culprits for me. Oh joy. I am now a tee total, decaff-tea drinking, toast eating maniac with an unhealthy need for ready salted crisps so that I don't hit the cakes or the gin. Who knew?<br /><br />It's total poo. I understand.Mimi and Tillyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01538674717041795218noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15322620.post-38134880295356538402010-07-06T00:16:24.725+01:002010-07-06T00:16:24.725+01:00Kim
This is tough, I've done it too but there...Kim<br /><br />This is tough, I've done it too but there are different auhtors that recommend different ways of doing it. I'll dig out my book and let you know which one it is.<br /><br />If you have tried chromium, have you tried supplementing with magnesium, bee pollen and aloe vera?<br /><br />You could go to a website of a supplement manufacturer www.natures-own.co.uk where you can download a health questionnaire and if you send it back to them, they will analyse it all and recommend a supplement strategy. Obviously they sell all the supplements! But they are an ethical company, they have doctors working for them, they are not cranks. And I don't work for them either!<br /><br />Sorry to hear that your elimination diet is not doing the business as you expected. But its worth trying all these things, if conventional medicine can't do anything for you. And its especially wrth trying the things that dont involve paying practitioners for therapies that may or may not work.<br /><br />Good luck Kim, keep goingHelen Machttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07012929527059944344noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15322620.post-50243050596125727202010-07-05T19:27:41.194+01:002010-07-05T19:27:41.194+01:00I can entirely relate to you--after surgery about ...I can entirely relate to you--after surgery about fifteen years ago, I ended up with Chronic Fatigue Syndrome for the better part of about two years. I was tired all the time, and I used to fall asleep at odd times and not know how or when I had done so. I hope that this works and that you at least get something out of the sacrifice.pilgrimchickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13808106043964544413noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15322620.post-69565326147549140392010-07-05T18:13:14.537+01:002010-07-05T18:13:14.537+01:00My mother had been ill for a long time, heard abou...My mother had been ill for a long time, heard about candida and went on an elimination diet - the more it didn't help, the more she became convinced that she had to give up more and more things and that it would work sooner or later. It never bloody did and it made all our lives a misery. <br /><br />And, from my mother's experience, trying a whole lot of alternative therapies may not help either. Funny that, even the last week before her terminal cancer was diagnosed, her kinesiologist, her nutritionist and her reflexologist, who were all so sure of curing her every time she paid them, never saw it coming (her symptoms were nothing like yours, btw, I'm not trying to worry you).<br /><br />I do think it's worth one final go with the coffee, but then if that doesn't make a real difference, it isn't candida.Zhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00822383355869390919noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15322620.post-76065407649815302932010-07-04T22:06:39.871+01:002010-07-04T22:06:39.871+01:00Well good luck with this, quite the task!
I had t...Well good luck with this, quite the task!<br /><br />I had to give up all alochol a number of years ago for allergy overload reasons, and got used to that pretty quickly. I would be okay with most of what you have to do, however the coffee would be the biggest challenge.<br /><br />I would be well beyond grumpy...Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11883394577835241921noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15322620.post-61444870440193480822010-07-04T21:49:33.643+01:002010-07-04T21:49:33.643+01:00Oh, my friend, that all so sucks scissors. I wou...Oh, my friend, that all so sucks scissors. I would probably enjoy eating and drinking whatever I wanted and just drop handfuls of methamphetamine because, really, I have no discipline. <br /><br />I hope giving up the coffee is the final piece of the puzzle that works for you, but if not at least you will have a great "I Told You So, You Lying Rotten Bastard" post.Jayne Martinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01053366144206401836noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15322620.post-30624711996724926672010-07-04T03:03:17.632+01:002010-07-04T03:03:17.632+01:00Quite right to be irritable, too. On the up side, ...Quite right to be irritable, too. On the up side, though, this must be helping with your weigh loss efforts. <br /><br />I mean, when you take out everything you're not allowed to have, what is there left to eat?BrightenedBoyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04140255969796496082noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15322620.post-41715596346502157962010-07-03T18:41:32.174+01:002010-07-03T18:41:32.174+01:00Mmm I had to find out what it is one can eat on th...Mmm I had to find out what it is one <i>can</i> eat on this diet. Didn't seem too bad but then <i>I</i> don't have to adhere to it. It was the list of what I would have to avoid if I were on it that depressed me . . . So I guess just look at all the good things one <i>can</i> eat.<br /><br />Looking forward to hearing if this works for you. I liked what Eryl had to say, too.<br /><br />AlanAlan Richardsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16434923502647217184noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15322620.post-64652939072552017642010-07-03T18:35:03.364+01:002010-07-03T18:35:03.364+01:00Myself as a coffee drinker can imagine how difficu...Myself as a coffee drinker can imagine how difficult a habit it would be to break. For your health I'd like to cheer you on to break it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15322620.post-90462717729399471372010-07-03T10:56:53.974+01:002010-07-03T10:56:53.974+01:00Wishing you the best of luck with that. Life is ab...Wishing you the best of luck with that. Life is about choices....I hope your proactive stance regarding your condition produces the results you're looking for....and we'll continue to hope and pray for!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02577780679140276988noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15322620.post-47244499626269377372010-07-03T05:39:46.403+01:002010-07-03T05:39:46.403+01:00Hi Kim,
Your tenacity is absolutely remarkable. A...Hi Kim,<br />Your tenacity is absolutely remarkable. After reading all the things you aren’t eating, exactly what are you ingesting? <br /><br />Best of luck! I hope your experiment is a success…litzihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12716809746521516595noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15322620.post-23529570289945432112010-07-03T00:19:43.146+01:002010-07-03T00:19:43.146+01:00Sorry Fay - missed you in the ether there somewher...Sorry Fay - missed you in the ether there somewhere. I've tried that before (I think), but not noticable differenceKim Ayreshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02656677501116622953noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15322620.post-29281155996702326882010-07-03T00:18:43.671+01:002010-07-03T00:18:43.671+01:00Savannah - I was feeling homicidal, but didn't...Savannah - I was feeling homicidal, but didn't have the energy to lift the axe...<br /><br />Starrlife - At the moment I'm trying to see how I cope without any artificial stimulants, but I do feel especially wary of pills for it. If I decide it's not making any difference I'll probably go back to tea drinking (something I've not done in years), or at worst, return to the coffee<br /><br />Carole - thank you - so do I.. :)<br /><br />Pat - Maggie is the real star when it comes to my diet. It is only her skill and expertise has made it possible for me to go this route at all. I eat a home-made muesli in the mornings which has various seeds and oat flakes in it with unsweetened soya milk for breakfasts. Maggie usually makes some kind of vegetable or lentil soup for lunch, and most of our evening meals are vegetarian but without cheese - we had veggy lasagne tonight, for example, and carrot quiche the other night. If I'm deperate for a snack, then oatcakes with tahini are pretty good.<br /><br />Attila - you have my empathy :)<br /><br />AngryParsnip - if you click on the Mental and Physical Health category, there are many posts about the CFS, so this won't be the last :)<br /><br />Erika - I did a stint of probiotics and chromium too. The plan is to slowly reintroduce things and see whether I have any reaction. But I have to say, with not even the slightest discernable difference in my condition, I remain sceptical about the diagnosis of Candida<br /><br />Eryl - that's the plan :)<br /><br />V - Eryl is a very wise person :)<br /><br />Hope - unfortunately it always feels like a lottery as to whether the doctor you see knows anything about the condition you're suffering from. The odds are higher than randomly grabbing someone off the street, but they are far from guaranteedKim Ayreshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02656677501116622953noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15322620.post-90604229986498093862010-07-03T00:02:39.608+01:002010-07-03T00:02:39.608+01:00Good on ya, Friend.
Add some co q 10. It will wor...Good on ya, Friend.<br />Add some co q 10. It will work wonders.Fay Campbellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17123764854210271111noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15322620.post-9634618074434524282010-07-02T23:51:56.042+01:002010-07-02T23:51:56.042+01:00I often believe it boils down to listening to YOUR...I often believe it boils down to listening to YOUR body, not what the doctors think. <br /><br />If I'd done that when I went in to discuss my recent onset of asthma I'd be on high blood pressure medicine and an anti-anxiety med, all because going to the doctor makes me nervous! I'm a great caregiver...but a lousy patient. When the Doc tried to convince me I was obviously about to explode, I smiled prettily, got the asthma med, took HALF what he prescribed and forgot the rest. I know a little medication goes a long way with my system; that's just how it is for me. <br /><br />I'm breathing better, sleeping well at night and have not murdered anyone due to high blood pressure or any need to be sedated for anxiety...which was funny because that med turned out to be for people suffering the DTs from alcohol withdrawal...and I don't drink!<br /><br />Hang in there my friend. I hope your experiment is over soon enough for you to feel better again. Until then, you can be grouchy with us and we'll keep offering our shoulders.hopehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03306622656461205674noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15322620.post-81315817694402410042010-07-02T20:57:17.899+01:002010-07-02T20:57:17.899+01:00Wise words from Eryl! Blooming rotten, mind you......Wise words from Eryl! Blooming rotten, mind you...Vhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01785781682613066190noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15322620.post-65273127948605021882010-07-02T20:48:39.956+01:002010-07-02T20:48:39.956+01:00If you prove it wrong you'll feel smug and be ...If you prove it wrong you'll feel smug <i>and</i> be able to go back to normal eating/drinking, and if you prove it right you'll start to feel well again: it's a win, win situation!Erylhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06008344023000459577noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15322620.post-54732757733704497512010-07-02T18:22:10.989+01:002010-07-02T18:22:10.989+01:00Ah the candida diet... I've been on it a while...Ah the candida diet... I've been on it a while ago for like a year, but for me it was giving up sugar and bread was the hardest. Fruits are usually eliminated because of their high sugar content, which causes fermentation in the stomach. Or so they claim. Stevia was suggested to replace sugar, but back then it was not available in Hungary. My naturopath (who was also an MD) told me that the elimination diet was only the first phase, after killing the candida off, the good bacteria and the balance in the gut needs to be restored. So he prescribed some probiotics and prebiotics. In the first phase, I was taking some grapefruitseed extract and other herbal supplements. Also, it's supposed to take a while for the detox diet to work. I know mainstream medicine rejects the whole candida overgrowth thing, but I also know people whom the diet <br />helped tremendously - for whatever reason. I think it's worth a try, but it takes lots and lots of self-discipline. And you have to be very conscious about your diet, since so many food items are eliminated. I was allowed to eat tart fruits, like grapefruit and green apples though. I possibly still have recipes, I could try to dig them up for you, if you wanted me to. Sorry for the long comment. I really hope you will feel better soon.erikahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03048369118376287016noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15322620.post-75293842239030899442010-07-02T17:04:31.217+01:002010-07-02T17:04:31.217+01:00OMG ! savannah's comment crack me up !
I hope ...OMG ! savannah's comment crack me up !<br />I hope this all works out for you or at lest find some answers ?<br /><br />I had/have Valley fever = arthritis = Fibromyalgia and now the markers for Lupus. So I understand your pain and exhaustion !<br />I too have over the years given up all sorts of food and after 30+ years I said what the hell and have added some back.<br />I hope it works out for you, please keep up the posts so we can see how you are doing. I don't always comment but I read your posts.<br /><br />fingers crossed, parsnipangryparsniphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17236094827257446781noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15322620.post-32455484883501871172010-07-02T14:13:44.258+01:002010-07-02T14:13:44.258+01:00Aw man, I hear you. I had to give up caffiene for...Aw man, I hear you. I had to give up caffiene for the most part because of heart problems. Why take meds to slow my heart rhythm and continue to drink stuff that will speed it up?<br /><br />I am allowed one cup of coffee in the morning. And believe you me, I have learned to savor it. By 1p.m. my ass is dragging.Attila the Momhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02158308703617226652noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15322620.post-52150086507819480702010-07-02T12:56:30.141+01:002010-07-02T12:56:30.141+01:00I'm glad you are giving it a real trial but it...I'm glad you are giving it a real trial but it figures after what you have done before so bravely.<br />I would be interested in what your diet actually is just now, with all the forbidden things.<br />But with all the extra stuff going on I doubt you'll have time to record it. Maybe a later post when there's a lull.Pathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01529798893653033970noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15322620.post-10799166348842909082010-07-02T12:24:01.868+01:002010-07-02T12:24:01.868+01:00You are determined Kim. I don't think many wo...You are determined Kim. I don't think many would be able to give fruits, breads, sugar all in one fell swoop. I surely hope this works.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03828426520214270655noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15322620.post-62512903677890840962010-07-02T12:11:58.781+01:002010-07-02T12:11:58.781+01:00Dear Kim- sounds grueling and horrific and I don&#...Dear Kim- sounds grueling and horrific and I don't mean just the caffeine! My sympathies - I'm not a fan of these kinds of dx but I know that when I was in pain I was willing to try anything. I don't want to be a pill pusher either but have you considered something like Adderall (usually prescribed for ADHD). It is a prescribed stimulant and it might get around the no coffee issue? It's purely an idea- you probably have already thought of it and hate it but I'm just putting it out there - who knows?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15322620.post-84368959859213076732010-07-02T12:08:57.737+01:002010-07-02T12:08:57.737+01:00sweet mary sunshine, sugar, i'd be more than g...sweet mary sunshine, sugar, i'd be more than grumpy and irritable. i'd be <i>homicidal!</i> i so hope this gives y'all an answer! xoxoxoxsavannahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04310843901371718758noreply@blogger.com